Home arrow Forum
Truth Seekers
Welcome, Guest
Please Login or Register.    Lost Password?
Blood Sacrifice (1 viewing) (1) Guests
Go to bottom Post Reply Favoured: 0
TOPIC: Blood Sacrifice
#3814
Mishayah (User)
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 844
graph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Blood Sacrifice 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Hi All

Blood Sacrifice

Why is it in all the Gospels do we never at anytime see Yahshua offering up a blood sacrifice? At the Jordan, Yahshua says to John the Baptist ‘It is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.’
If blood sacrifice was an integral part of the Law/Torah then why did Yahshua never do it? How can we say He fulfilled all the Law if he never offered animal blood upon the altar? He ministered three and half years before He was murdered. In all that time if blood on the altar was required and He never gave it, then He didn’t fulfill all righteousness according to Jewish Law did He?

It is well known from the ancient historians that not only Yahshua but His brother James/Jacob fought vigorously against the sacrifices of blood. Jeremiah says that at no time did YHVH ever, no never command blood sacrifice. Jeremiah 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

Yahshua says in Mat 12:7 "But if you had known what this means, 'I desire compassion, and not a sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.

Now notice this in the past tense, i.e. ‘Would not have condemned…’
Who were the innocent that were being condemned? It was only the animals that were sacrificed. The animals were the innocent blood, the guiltless that were being butchered upon the altar of sacrifice.

In Prov 6:16 YHVH says HE HATES the shedding of innocent blood. So why is it that we think that YHVH was only appeased if the innocent were slaughtered and their blood offered up? Today this would be considered a Satanic ritual. So why wasn’t it a Satanic ritual back then? Or was it?

We know that the original Law of Moses was lost for quite sometime. Then in the days of Jeremiah’s Father Hilkiah the High Priest, the Book of the Law of Moses was found lying in the dusty ruins of the Temple.

2 Kings 22:8 And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.

We also know that in the time of Jeremiah, a short time later that the lying scribes had virtually come out of the woodwork and had seriously edited and tweaked the Book of the Law.
Jeremiah 8:8 a"How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
Made what into a lie? Obviously the law of Moses.
How did Jeremiah know this? Again, Jeremiah had the original Book of Law. It was found by his father and he knew what the true Law said.

Just a few verses earlier in Jeremiah chapter 7 we read that YHVH never at anytime commanded blood sacrifice.
A few verses later in Chapter 8 we read the ‘lying pen of the scribes made the Law a deception, a lie.’

In the Tabernacle of David there was no ‘altar of sacrifice’ and yet this is the only tabernacle that YHVH said He would raise again.
King David knew the truth about ‘blood sacrifice’ he knew that YHVH never commanded it. For he says in Psalm 51:16 For Thou dost not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; Thou art not pleased with burnt offering.
:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

When David says at the end of the verse ‘... thou wilt not despise.’ What he means is this - YHVH despised blood sacrifice.

It’s quite clear from Jeremiah and David and several other of the prophets including Habakuk that the Torah had been so falsified and so viciously edited and tweaked, additions, omissions and switching verses around so they would read as something other than what was originally said. That it was nearly impossible to know the Truth as YHVH gave it to Moses.
This is one of the main reasons the Jews were expecting the Messiah to restore and make known the original Torah. Which in fact HE did. Yahshua only taught the Torah and nothing else. The problem, if one can call it that, is that by the time Yahshua showed up ‘Blood Sacrifice was big business for the corrupted Priesthood. It was a huge source of revenue for them and it was the last thing they wanted to give up. For the Priesthood to have accepted Yahshua as the Messiah meant that they would have lost their entire power _base_ and their perpetual source of income. The same as it is today with the church.

So our Heavenly Father’s name has been dragged through the blood and mud over blood sacrifice. He’s been indicted by christianity and humanity for crimes He never committed. He’s been given massive reproach and slander by those who claim to know Him, but have never met Him.
The worst of it is this, That YHVH offered His own beloved Son up as a bloody human sacrifice. I remind the reader in case you aren’t aware of this but YHVH completely outlawed human sacrifice. Why would HE violate His own Law in order to appease His own wrath. Does that make any kind of sense to anyone who is not under a great delusion?

No doubt someone will say ‘well yeah, what about the ‘lamb that was slain from the foundation of the earth?’

There are different words used for sacrificed and slain
Sacrifice: thusia {thoo-see'-ah}
Meaning: 1) a sacrifice, victim

Slain: sphazo {sfad'-zo}
Meaning: 1) to slay, slaughter, butcher 2) to put to death by violence

Nowhere does it say the Lamb that was sacrificed, but rather the Lamb was murdered, butchered, slaughtered. This was the highest of all crimes ever committed upon planet Earth and this was not why YHVH sent His beloved Son. The Son was sent to reveal the Father. The Father hates blood sacrifice and did not send his Son to be tortured to death. Yahshua says that YHVH so ‘loved’ the world…’ Where’s the wrath here that was supposed to be appeased by the bloody torture of Yahshua?

According to Christianity, John 3:16 should have read ‘for YHVH was so PO’d with the world that He sent his beloved son to be tortured to death.’ Because that’s exactly what they teach. It’s a LIE.

It is written that the Law was delivered to Moses from out of heaven. Does anyone really believe that there is blood sacrifice in heaven? No? Then why believe that the Law of God contained blood sacrifice?
Moses also was instructed to build the Tabernacle from the pattern he saw in heaven. Again does anyone really believe that there is an altar constructed for blood sacrifice in heaven? Doesn’t make sense, does it?

And again no doubt, someone will refer to Abraham and Isaac. Yet here is the problem. Human Sacrifice is utterly forbidden the Law of YHVH, it is a great evil. So why are we expected to believe that YHVH tempted Abraham to commit a great evil?
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:


In case the reader is not aware of this fact Abraham had the Torah and the Commandments and all the statutes. Read Gen 26:5 YHVH chose Abraham because HE knew that Abraham would teach the Law to his household which included of course his son and his grand son.
It’s a falsehood that Abraham did not have the Law because Gen 26:5 clearly says that he did.

The most perfect example of the Law of Moses is Yahshua Himself. He never offered up blood sacrifice, in fact He taught against it. Also keep in mind that Yahshua said that He spoke nothing except the Father gave Him the Words to speak. So we see the Father himself in reality taught and fought against blood sacrifice. The Law, the True Law of Moses was magnificently and majesty performed, walked out, if you will, in the Life of Yahshua the Messiah. So if we don’t see and we don’t, any animal sacrifice performed by Yahshua nor His disciples, then it’s obvious that animal sacrifice/blood sacrifice was never contained in the original Law of Moses, even as Jeremiah said.
Keep in mind also that Yahshua never stoned or had anyone stoned. Sins were forgiven or rather sent away not on account of blood shed, but rather because the person involved had shown the fruit of repentance.
This was always true of our Heavenly Father, all He ever required for the remission of sin which is the release from the bondage of sin was repentance from the heart, a turning to YHVH with all the heart, soul, mind and strength. He never at any time made the shedding of blood a requirement for forgiveness of sin. YHVH does not excuse the guilty on behalf of the innocent.
If YHVH had offered up His Son as sacrifice for sins then why did Peter on the Day of Pentecost not say so. Rather Peter said to the men of Israel Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Yahshua, whom ye have crucified, both King and Messiah.

No talk of a sacrifice here, but of horrific murder.

Michael
 
Report to moderator   Logged Logged  
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
      Topics Author Date
    thread link
Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/27 23:15
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2011/12/28 15:45
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/28 20:00
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2011/12/28 21:39
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/28 22:00
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2011/12/28 22:54
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/28 23:45
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2011/12/29 02:28
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2011/12/29 04:12
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2011/12/29 04:37
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/29 04:32
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2011/12/29 05:51
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/29 09:58
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2011/12/29 13:51
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2011/12/29 15:49
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/30 01:16
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2011/12/30 04:54
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2011/12/30 06:04
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/04 08:38
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Rodin 2012/01/04 11:18
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/04 12:03
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Rodin 2012/01/04 13:00
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2012/01/04 13:28
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/04 19:15
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/04 21:38
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2012/01/05 01:35
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Rodin 2012/01/05 06:52
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/05 00:40
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/05 06:27
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/05 20:02
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2012/01/05 23:35
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/06 00:10
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2012/01/06 00:32
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/06 00:53
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/06 01:02
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2012/01/06 01:14
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/06 03:21
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
charliemc 2012/01/06 05:39
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/06 06:04
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
charliemc 2012/01/06 06:34
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Rodin 2012/01/06 08:20
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/06 08:55
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/06 08:53
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/06 09:07
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/06 09:10
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Molly 2012/01/06 15:28
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/06 19:19
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/06 22:02
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/07 22:11
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/10 05:29
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/10 08:00
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/17 01:29
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/17 01:36
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
charliemc 2012/01/17 03:12
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/17 03:36
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
charliemc 2012/01/17 04:22
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/17 05:40
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/17 06:42
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/19 01:15
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/23 19:19
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Shaun 2012/01/24 00:10
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
followjj 2012/01/24 02:54
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/01/24 02:22
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/24 03:09
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Evoc 2012/01/31 03:05
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Mishayah 2012/01/31 07:11
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
Evoc 2012/02/01 21:15
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/02/02 00:27
    thread link
thread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/02/02 00:29
    thread link
thread linkthread linkthread link Re:Blood Sacrifice
teresa 2012/02/02 00:31
Go to top Post Reply