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Which path, where is the path? 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Hi Everyone,
I have been thinking about all of this for a long time, and have been looking for answers. Perhaps one of you can lead me to more understanding?

Here is my line of thinking:

Yeshua was presumed to be an essene. The essenes are an esoteric sect that very closely matches some of the teachings in freemasonry. It similarly incorporates the 33 levels, with secret teachings at each level. The two groups even share some of the same signs and symbols, especially the tree of life. What I don't understand, is if Yeshua was an essene, did he learn divination, and other activities taught in each of these sects as well? If that is true, isn't that against Moses' Law recorded in Deuteronomy? Also, other connections make me wonder who is the god of all "religions" here on earth?

The Jesus preached by Paul is very different than the true Yeshua who walked and lived a very holy life. He had to come from somewhere and the essene group seems like the best match, they were healers, vegetarians, peaceful, much in contrast to the pharisees and saducees he rebuked.

The tree of life symbolism seems to be everywhere across religions and even on the ark of the covenant in the form of the vesica pisces. This is also intimately connected to freemasonry.

A brief analysis of freemasonry reveals connections to many secret groups like the skull and bones, bohemian grove, and these groups connect right to the elite group at center stage right now running the world (New World Order). Freemasonry and other of these groups say Lucifer is the god they worship. They believe his name of "light bearer" who reveals the truth.

So, following this trail is very confusing, because it seems to be all connected, like one big circle. The "god" running the world through freemasonry and other secret groups seems to be the same "god" connected with the ark of the covenant and the form of Judiasm that Yeshua came out of! Which is the same "god" worshiped by Jews and Christians alike (from the Old Testament). The symbols are all connected as well, the star of David is very similar to the masonic symbol. The tree of life is seen inside the vesica pisces. The fish represented in christianity is in the vesica pisces!

Which is the right way? I have loads of problems with the religion of "Christianity", mainly it has adopted the trinity which I feel has created idolatry for their god "Jesus Christ". This "Jesus Christ" is not the same as Yeshua. The false teacher Paul has done a great job recreating this man, and his Pauline dogma is prevalent in any Christian church you walk into. So I've looked into the roots of Christianity and have found more in common with many messianics who celebrate the feasts and are law abiding. But many in this group still worship "Jesus" as God in the flesh, and are just really christians following Pauline doctrine, they really do not have a true Jewish understanding of the bible.

I get worried that I will never discover the way that Yeshua talked about. He said he is the way, truth and life, but getting there, and finding that narrow path is confusing. Can any of us actually be held accountable for our sins because of how distorted the enemy has made it? I know that God will examine our hearts and judge accordingly, but I do not want to worship the enemy. I only want to worship the ONE above all, just as Yeshua did. My problem is, is the ONE who I think he is?

Please no judgements. I am seriously, like everyone here, searching for the truth. I have heard enough from christian warriors battling with me (family and friends).
 
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Re:Which path, where is the path? 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Hi Teshuva-

Those are great questions for one who is searching! It can seem like a confusing nightmare but at least you know about some of these things and have knowledge that that tangled web of information does exist. You are light years ahead of most sitting in the pews at church who are oblivious to this knowledge. And, you understand the problem with Paul. Good for you!

Just ask why anyone would want it to be so confusing? Of course, Satan would want it so in order to keep you from your search. The tangling web began with the first prophesy at Genesis 3:15. Satan had to make himself the hero of the prophesy. He arranged this at Babel by means of Nimrod and his wife Semiramis, who had a son Tammuz (who was supposed to be Nimrod reborn). When the languages were confused that people's religious practises spread through all the earth and has been the predominant way of worship ever since. Their vile, God dishonoring practises are found in virtually every religion around the globe. Some of this information has even been incorporated into the Bible, which is why the doctrine of the trinity is so widespread.

Secondly, God has allowed this tangled web to exist because only those who are sincerely interested in worshipping in spirit and truth will make the effort to search for Him, especially when confronted with all the confusion. Your job now is to beseech our Father for insight and understanding. I'm sure that He is eager for your request. Sometimes it is necessary to be specific in our requests. You already have so much knowledge. You just need to sort it out to see what belongs where.

In the meantime, to find out more about how the practises of Nimrod and family have spread across
the globe, I would suggest reading The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop. Also, the essene's have been discussed here before, so you could do a search for those discussions.

Molly
 
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Re:Which path, where is the path? 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Thank you Molly! I do not really know the full story you were talking about with Nimrod and Babel, so I will definitely look into that and the book you suggested.
 
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Re:Which path, where is the path? 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Hi Teshuva:

Even as we receive the seed which is the Word of Life, so we begin to become more and more conscious of the presence of this new life abiding within us.
Oh so similar to a woman in her pregnancy.
You notice how she is kind of lit up with the expectation of her new child.

As we yield to the desires of the seed, which more and more manifests in our 'prayer life' well those desires get stronger and stronger and at times exceedingly intense.

Many have mistaken conception for actual birth.

Birth pangs come, contractions and pressure but the birth is not yet. The child has entered the birth canal which is very narrow.
Soon comes travail, the agony before the ecstasy.
As one endures the travail till it is complete then one obtains the joy.

This is the beginning.

What next?

As John the Baptist said 'I must decrease and you must increase.'

Little by little we find that there is an internal shift happening. AS the child grows and matures we find that we are in greater and greater identification with Him and not so much with our previous selves.
We find our selves in a marvelous blending. We think the same thoughts, we have the same desires, we speak the same words and we do the same things.

So you see, unless we become as a little child we shall not enter the Kingdom.

There is no other Way.

The Gospels are more of a prophetic outline than history.

We all begin as Mary so to speak. It's important to recognize what she said when she received the seed. "Be it done unto me according to my faith."

In the parable of the sower, only one of the four ever gave birth to the seed that was conceived within them.

Michael
 
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Re:Which path, where is the path? 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Hi Teshuva,

You are asking some good and honest questions.

As one who left the church system several years ago, I empathise with your comments about its creation of a different Jesus to Yeshua. Because it teaches that Jesus 'overturned the law', it unwittingly disqualifies Him as Messiah. This of course is unbiblical nonsense.

Unfortunately, modern Judaism has its own version of Paul, as exemplified by the rabbis and sages who have sought every possible way to try and prove that YHWH has no Son. One is their refusal to acknowledge the Trinity with it’s aspects of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. To muddy the waters they have even twisted the meaning of 'echad' (in the Sh’ma), to make it the same as 'yachid' or a singular 'one'. However this does not and cannot change the meaning of echad as originally written, which is a composite unity.

The Tanakh makes no secret of the fact that YHWH has a Son. For example: "What is His name, and what is His Son's name if you know"? (Prov 30:4), and Daniel 3:25 where Nebuchadnezzar said he saw the "Son of YHWH". It makes many references to the Ruach HaKodesh (as did Yeshua), and also the Angel of YHWH often appeared as two or three related identities (e.g. Gen 18:2). If YHWH is truly yachid as the rabbis try to say, then two of the three seen by Abraham must have been demonic imposters!

Consider a landscape containing a tree. The tree has a unique identity, but it is still a central part of the landscape. If you honour the tree, you honour the landscape. If you dishonour the tree, you dishonour the landscape. Remove the tree and you end up with no landscape that you can see. And so it is with Yeshua and YHWH.

If we _base_ our doctrines solely on the word of YHWH, we cannot go wrong. These include the writings of Moses and the Prophets, and the words of Yeshua. Not only will these lead us away from false teaching and towards the truth, but they will also save us from much frustration in trying to find truth from other sources.

As for the Essenes, many ancient groups were wiped out because of great sin (e.g. Sodom, the Christmas Islanders, the Aztecs). According to Torah, righteousness is rewarded by blessing and protection, but for the Essenes that protection was evidently removed. Although they are usually credited with great righteousness, I often wonder if something about them is being overlooked.

Shalom
 
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Re:Which path, where is the path? 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Mishayah wrote:
Hi Teshuva:

Even as we receive the seed which is the Word of Life, so we begin to become more and more conscious of the presence of this new life abiding within us.
Oh so similar to a woman in her pregnancy.
You notice how she is kind of lit up with the expectation of her new child.

As we yield to the desires of the seed, which more and more manifests in our 'prayer life' well those desires get stronger and stronger and at times exceedingly intense.

Many have mistaken conception for actual birth.

Birth pangs come, contractions and pressure but the birth is not yet. The child has entered the birth canal which is very narrow.
Soon comes travail, the agony before the ecstasy.
As one endures the travail till it is complete then one obtains the joy.

This is the beginning.

What next?

As John the Baptist said 'I must decrease and you must increase.'

Little by little we find that there is an internal shift happening. AS the child grows and matures we find that we are in greater and greater identification with Him and not so much with our previous selves.
We find our selves in a marvelous blending. We think the same thoughts, we have the same desires, we speak the same words and we do the same things.

So you see, unless we become as a little child we shall not enter the Kingdom.

There is no other Way.

The Gospels are more of a prophetic outline than history.

We all begin as Mary so to speak. It's important to recognize what she said when she received the seed. "Be it done unto me according to my faith."

In the parable of the sower, only one of the four ever gave birth to the seed that was conceived within them.

Michael


I like the way you explained this, deep yet simple...profound wow! Can I copy and paste and share this?

Thanks
 
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